Session Start: Fri May 24 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[01:37]<@BC_Programming> James Randi is awesome
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[03:00]<gat_man> mmmm no clitch huh!

Session Start: Fri May 24 03:05:08 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [03:05] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[03:05] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[03:05] * Set by jacky on Tue Mar 02 11:03:23
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[03:34]<+camerongray> Hey gat_man
[03:40]<gat_man> sorry dude missed ya !
[03:40]<gat_man> hi there camerongray
[03:42]<+camerongray> lol, yeah Steve isn't here any more
[03:42]<+camerongray> This channel is mostly talking about anything :P
[03:44]<@BC_Programming> !seen GlitchPC
[03:44]<@BC_Programming> see :P
[03:45]<+camerongray> lol
[03:45]<@BC_Programming> !seen my_butt
[03:45]<+camerongray> hehehe, I miss street ::P
[03:45]<@BC_Programming> indeed
[03:47]<+camerongray> Nice having Calum back though
[03:48]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[03:53]<+camerongray> Woop! All the stuff he sent me arrived :D
[03:54]<@BC_Programming> what did he send you
[03:56]<+camerongray> RAM, Atom Motherboard, Some laptop DDR2, Mobile Pentium Dual Core, External DVD Drive,Fan Controllers, CMOS batteries and an IDE to SATA converter
[03:56]<+camerongray> Bought some of it, he gave me the rest
[03:57]<@BC_Programming> cool
[03:58]<+camerongray> Building a small home server, just need the case now
[04:09]<@BC_Programming> I'm clay hunting in my single player world
[04:09]<@BC_Programming> have a double-chest in Tux's server of Clay blocks already, in preparation for 1.6
[04:12]<gat_man> Tux as in reminder Tux?
[04:12]<@BC_Programming> Yes he made TuxReminder
[04:13]<gat_man> cool ok send regards to him from guitar_man , and to his family!
[04:14]<@BC_Programming> you could use TuxReminder to do that lol :P
[04:15]<gat_man> indeed , or could even txt or email him , but , prefer proactive live , here is sorta some how better
[04:16]<gat_man> is lik where I met im
[04:16]<gat_man> sound strange?
[04:16]<@BC_Programming> kinda makes sense
[04:16]<gat_man> sweet
[04:18]<gat_man> i don't take this life into my real life except for zuwer , met him thru his gran pops friend , before we knew we were both here
[04:21]<gat_man> ok am gonna crash , early night , big day 's the next two , a lot on
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[04:45]<+camerongray> Woop! Working from home and managed to leave my RSA SecureID thing in the office :P
[04:58]<+camerongray> Oh I love testing analytics for kids sites - Casually looking through custom events... "emotion_burp" and "emotion_fart"
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[05:03]<@BC_Programming> man I have so many special rooms in my MC base
[05:03]<@BC_Programming> I have a dye workshop
[05:03]<@BC_Programming> a firework workshop
[05:03]<@BC_Programming> furnace rooms
[05:05]<+camerongray> It gets better... Messages - "Eat my farts"
[05:05]<+camerongray> Can tell the maturity of their target market :P
[05:05]<@BC_Programming> what is this?
[05:05]<@BC_Programming> you mean a website a kid made presumably?
[05:09]<+camerongray> Nah, a kids entertainment website
[05:09]<+camerongray> Looking at the data they are recording in their analytics
[05:10]<@BC_Programming> oh
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[06:01]<+camerongray> And since what I was testing doesn't work, Now I need to actually play the flash game to try to fix it :P
[06:01]<@BC_Programming> oh dear
[06:15]<+camerongray> Pretty impressive game though, 3D environment
[06:16]<+camerongray> Meaning from a technical standpoint - I'm not really playing, more a case of "Collect coins and press something -> look at network requests to see what happened
[06:16]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[06:17]<+camerongray> "Looks like the door is locked, we need to find the key" - great! :P
[06:17]<+camerongray> I'm such a rebel, I put my work email address in where it asked for my parent's email address :P
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[08:05]<BC_Programmer> hai Jacky
[08:05]<@jacky> BC_Programmer: Hello
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[08:05]<@BC_Programming> thx
[08:05]<@jacky> :)
[08:06]<@BC_Programming> hmm I should have pretended to be RalphSpencer
[08:06]<@jacky> har!
[08:06]<@jacky> wow....
[08:06]<@jacky> that's a blast from the past
[08:06]<@jacky> oh!
[08:06]<@BC_Programming> I'll grep u
[08:06]<@jacky> check it out!! do: /msg nickserv info ralphspencer
[08:07]<@jacky> they still haven't released it
[08:07]<@jacky> perhaps they just forgot....
[08:07]<@BC_Programming> or maybe he's been on... or maybe even somebody else snapped it up
[08:07]<@jacky> huh?
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[08:07]<@jacky> the way that reads, nobody could snap it up
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> oooh
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> I see
[08:08]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:08]<@BC_Programming> I thought it meant it was already in use
[08:08]<jamer> Morning jacky and bc
[08:08]<@jacky> in all my time on and off, playing with IRC, I've never seen that elsewhere.
[08:08]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:08]<@jacky> jamer: Hello
[08:09]<jamer> Seen what happen jacky?
[08:09]<@jacky> jamer: today, the sun came up
[08:09]<jamer> Ah ...
[08:10]<@jacky> It did.
[08:10]<jamer> I was asleep at that time
[08:10]<@jacky> ok
[08:10]<jamer> So im not sure if it just didnt pop into the sky XD
[08:10]<@jacky> on the other hand, if you want to elaborate... so that I have at least SOME idea of what you are talking about.... feel free.
[08:11]<@BC_Programming> the sun came up?
[08:11]<@BC_Programming> OH GAWD I'm panicking here!
[08:11]<@BC_Programming> It's not up for me yet! What do I DO?
[08:11]<@BC_Programming> What if it doesn't come up?
[08:11]<@jacky> BC_Programming: it was re-programmed (that is acceptable to talk about here)
[08:11]<@jacky> it slides sideways
[08:11]<@BC_Programming> thanks Obama
[08:12]<@jacky> har
[08:12]<@jacky> !seen what_happen
[08:14]<+camerongray> hey jacky
[08:14]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[08:18]<@BC_Programming> <jamer> So im not sure if it just didnt pop into the sky XD
[08:18]<@BC_Programming> ^ explain yourself I DEMAND IT
[08:18]<@jacky> jamer: are you going to explain? <jamer> Seen what happen jacky?
[08:18]<@BC_Programming> wow I failed at copy paste
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[08:19]<@jacky> har
[08:19]<@jacky> BC_Programming: yes. it has -n- in the middle, as in copy-n-paste
[08:19]<@jacky> tsk, tsk, tsk.
[08:20]<@BC_Programming> no no Copy 'u' paste
[08:20]<@BC_Programming> the u is an upside down n you see... style
[08:20]<@jacky> hehe
[08:20]<@jacky> oh wow!
[08:20]<@jacky> this is like back in the 60's... seeing things, and all....
[08:22]<@BC_Programming> except you have to ask people to repeat themselves... "what's that sonny?" et al
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> have a hallucination where you talk to Larry King and you have to ask the hallucination to speak up
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> not larry king... who am I thinking up
[08:24]<@BC_Programming> of*
[08:24]<@BC_Programming> Texaco sponsored....
[08:24]<@BC_Programming> Ed Sullivan! I think that's who I was thinking of... don't think that was the 60's though
[08:25]<@BC_Programming> I forgot where I was going with that
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[08:26]<Ed_Sullivan> it's gonna be a rilly big shew!
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[08:26]<@BC_Programming> I feel blessed
[08:27]<@jacky> psst... BC.... I didn't see anything... did you?
[08:27]<@BC_Programming> Oh no I'm hallucinating IRC messages
[08:27]<@BC_Programming> there is only one thing to do... take my emergency cyanide pills
[08:27]<@jacky> you have internet-itis
[08:28]<@jacky> you've not been taking your regular cyanide pills?
[08:28]<@BC_Programming> curses my dyslexic pharmacist gave me cyandye pills instead
[08:28]<@jacky> are they funny colors?
[08:28]<@BC_Programming> no, just cyan
[08:29]<@BC_Programming> their Jokes are about average
[08:29]<@jacky> ok. whew.
[08:29]<@jacky> oooooohhh
[08:29]<@jacky> hehehe
[08:29]<@BC_Programming> see what I did thar huh
[08:29]<@jacky> slick...
[08:30]<@jacky> !seen dumb_jokes
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[09:43]<@Mulreay> 31 people have watched my videos this month on a TV.. odd
[09:44]<@BC_Programming> how does that even work
[09:44]<@Mulreay> Quite easily witrh TV's that can connect to broadband
[09:44]<@BC_Programming> ahh yes
[09:44]<@BC_Programming> newfangled
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[09:46]<@Mulreay> 2 people watched me on a Wii
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[09:47]<@BC_Programming> I deleted about a half-dozen of my youtube vids yesterday
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[09:48]<@BC_Programming> there are a few others I'll probably delete once they get flagged... Oh Nintendo you stupid stupid company
[09:48]<@BC_Programming> "Duhhh we owns the games now we takez all your ad revenues"
[09:49]<@BC_Programming> of course now people just won't LP their games... and their channels will probably be better for it
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[10:45]<@Calum> Hi all
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> Hey Calum
[10:45]<@jacky> Calum: Hello
[10:45]<@Calum> How goes it?
[10:46]<@jacky> it's going....
[10:46]<@jacky> heh
[10:46]<@jacky> how about yourself?
[10:46]<@Calum> hehe, going good thanks, glad it's the weekend
[10:46]<@jacky> you have weekends off?
[10:47]<@Calum> indeed
[10:47]<@Calum> plus I have the coming Monday off, bank holiday :) so 3 days off
[10:47]<@jacky> Monday is Memorial Day here, so many have the day off
[10:47]<@jacky> what do you mean "bank" holiday?
[10:48]<@Calum> it's just the usual name for national holidays here, all the banks are closed and some businesses are
[10:48]<@jacky> ah
[10:48]<@Calum> most retail places work reduced hours on bank holidays but they do open, they used to close all day
[10:48]<@jacky> being not too far from a summertime beach resort, this is the beginning of the "summer" season
[10:49]<@jacky> there will be about a zillion a**holes on the road
[10:49]<@jacky> hehehe
[10:49]<@BC_Programming> GRRR
[10:49]<@BC_Programming> "this page isn't redirecting properly" for EVERYTHING
[10:49]<@BC_Programming> go to google... "this page isn't redirecting properly"
[10:49]<@Calum> jacky: sounds familiar, do you use the term "sunday driver" there?
[10:49]<@jacky> for old people, just out for a slow drive around
[10:50]<@jacky> but I'm referring to tourists now.
[10:50]<@jacky> totally different animal
[10:50]<@jacky> hehe
[10:50]<@Calum> heh, I guess so, not many tourists around here! I was just saying, because they come out on bank holidays too
[10:51]<@jacky> won't be able to see them here... not this weekend
[10:51]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[10:51]<@BC_Programming> nevermind
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[10:51]<@BC_Programming> just the people behind the website are incompetent dumbasses
[10:51]<@jacky> imagine this: the beach town has maybe a population of 10,000. It will be closer to 300,000 every day, this weekend
[10:51]<@BC_Programming> "DUH let's redirect to this other page and make that other page redirect to the first page"
[10:52]<@Calum> wow
[10:52]<@Calum> BC: sounds good, lol
[10:52]<@jacky> Calum: the weather is marginal too. Not "warm". just upper 60's and tomorrow maybe lower 70's
[10:53]<@jacky> so.. if they don't go to the beach, they all get in their cars and try to go somewhere... sigh
[10:53]<@Calum> yeah
[10:53]<@BC_Programming> sigh... I really am getting sick of this... if I was printing out my resume and Cover Letters by this point I would have felled a forest
[10:53]<@BC_Programming> all I'm getting are idiot recruiters that need English lessons
[10:54]<@BC_Programming> "This Job would fit you great, let me know" and then describe a job that's across the country, requires a drivers license, and uses a programming language and library I've never used
[10:54]<@jacky> you don't drive?
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> I haven't had a single cent of income for the last year and a half
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> well that's not true
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> I think I had maybe $300 total
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> also here Drivers licenses are freaking retarded to get
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> you have to pay to get a Learners License... then three months later pay AGAIN to take a driving test to get a "New" License, then a year later pay AGAIN to get a full license...
[10:56]<@BC_Programming> and of course they have all these special rules so if you screw up you have to go back to the start
[10:56]<@jacky> sounds like the stuff that they put kids through here, now. it is a shame
[10:56]<@jacky> when I came along, you got a 90 day learners permit at age 16.
[10:56]<@jacky> keep it two weeks
[10:56]<@jacky> go take the test
[10:56]<@jacky> pass it, and you have your license
[10:56]<@jacky> simple
[10:56]<@BC_Programming> I mean, technically, I can probably drive, it's not exactly complicated... I mean stupid people seem to manage somehow
[10:57]<@jacky> you should get it... if for nothing else, in the event of a minor emergency
[10:57]<@jacky> and convenience
[10:57]<@jacky> but... it depends on how much it costs, too
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> $31
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> it's free for a learners
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> of course it's all waxing since there aren't any vehicles to drive anyway
[10:59]<@BC_Programming> mmm
[10:59]<@BC_Programming> waxing
[10:59]<@jacky> waxing?
[10:59]<@BC_Programming> "waxing philosophically"
[10:59]<@jacky> ah
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[10:59]<@BC_Programming> or something
[10:59]<@jacky> that was my point... get it anyway
[10:59]<@jacky> if it doesn't cost too much, and cost too much to maintain renewal
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> I don't have $31
[11:00]<@jacky> fair 'nuff
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> :P
[11:02]<jamer> I have my license bc
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[11:02]<jamer> Full license
[11:02]<@BC_Programming> that's nice. Shall I tell you where to shove it?
[11:03]<jamer> Lol
[11:03]<@BC_Programming> is that a yes or a no
[11:05]<jamer> I already know where
[11:06]<@BC_Programming> it involves Hippo
[11:06]<jamer> Maybe not XD
[11:07]<@jacky> see you all later ....
[11:07]<@jacky> 
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[11:08]<@BC_Programming> oh wow I had to think to remember my Middle name for a second there
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[11:08]<jamer> Lol
[11:09]<@BC_Programming> It's not funny, it's old age
[11:09]<@BC_Programming> 26
[11:09]<@BC_Programming> the golden years
[11:09]<@BC_Programming> sort of like "the golden girls" but actually funny
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[11:17]<@Calum> Hey Mulreay
[11:17]<@Mulreay> hey Calum
[11:17]<@BC_Programming> I think I scared away Jacky
[11:17]<@Calum> lol
[11:18]<@BC_Programming> he seems to have a fear of Hippos
[11:19]<@BC_Programming> gotta love those application forms that give you a plain text area to paste your "resume"
[11:23]<@Calum> Someone made me an awesome forum signature today, I was pretty impressed
[11:23]<@BC_Programming> SHOW
[11:23]<@Calum> http://i.imgur.com/Ivx1TAQ.jpg
[11:23]<@BC_Programming> oh I see you already were doing that
[11:23]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:24]<@Calum> I thought it was pretty funny heh, they made me another as well, just uploading
[11:24]<@Calum> http://i.imgur.com/XD8pvIy.jpg
[11:25]<@Calum> I've never had a forum signature before, and never been creative enough to make one or ask someone to make one
[11:25]<@Calum> so these were just random ideas they had for me
[11:25]<@Calum> I was impressed, especially as they knocked them up in like half an hour
[11:26]<@Mulreay> Just looked back and seen your comment on Allan BC_Programming yeah hated that guy for a good month about 2yrs ago.. hopefully grown up since then.. but may be not. Looking over some other past logs to see what else I did back then. I was quite the argumentative person
[11:27]<@Calum> brb, kebab time
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> Ahh I found Calum's signature bar
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.deviantart.com/art/MLP-Forum-Signature-Bar-260906642
[11:27]<@BC_Programming> it's perfect
[11:28]<@BC_Programming> Mulreay: I think it was more a case of him(Allan) ruffling feathers
[11:29]<@BC_Programming> the fact that he doesn't hover in CH is a qualification of sorts, lol
[11:29]<@BC_Programming> and he gave LC a good paragraph when LC tried to say how great Registry Cleaners were
[11:37]<@Calum> BC: no thanks to the sig bar, hah
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[11:37]<@BC_Programming> lol
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[11:38]<@BC_Programming> I have like a dozen others I made that may or may not involve ponies
[11:38]<@BC_Programming> ok they all do, stop badgering me
[11:39]<@Calum> lol
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[11:41]<+PixelsintheBlood> New advert for youtube is done
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> cool... now youtube can screw you out of ad revenue amirite
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> that's what they do... "oh sorry we had a mix up there... oh that week of ads that you didn't see revenue for... nope don't have that on file"
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> "btw you used a tenth of a second of a Queen song so now we need to give 100% of your revenue to UMG because our system makes no sense"
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> etc.
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> (don't tell them I said that, they'll send assasins)
[11:44]<+PixelsintheBlood> No real issues with youtube monies myself... but you could flag my advert as your voice appears in it
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> WHAT! I DEMAND RECOGNITION
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> :P
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> I kid of course
[11:50]<@Calum> OK guys, I'm off for tonight, have a good one
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[12:01]<+PixelsintheBlood> bbl
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[12:15]<@Mulreay> Love YouTube... it's all broken.. whoooooo hoooooo can't wait for your next stupidity action you make .. twats
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> see I told you
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> well not really but I'll try to take credit for it
[12:16]<@Mulreay> Stopped listening to you quite a while back
[12:17]<@BC_Programming> so did I
[12:26]<@Mulreay> Ahh tis all broken
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[12:36]<@Mulreay> I so want to go there
[12:50]<@Mulreay> Pope Francis says atheists can go to heaven? Great. There goes the neighborhood.
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> heaven is too mainstream
[12:52]<@Mulreay> Use a touch phone? Add screenwriter to your CV/resume.
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[13:55]<+camerongray> Now racism in CH, it just gets better :L
[14:01]<jamer> Him kicking and banning has gone iff the top
[14:01]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:02]<+camerongray> [20:53:33] <lostcoast> now all of china will declare war on us :)
[14:02]<+camerongray> [20:53:34] <guest_37> Hi all
[14:02]<+camerongray> [20:53:36] <guest_37> is anyone here?
[14:02]<+camerongray> [20:53:39] <db100547> baconbuttie: nice one :)
[14:02]<+camerongray> [20:53:41] <guest_37> hey lostcoast
[14:02]<+camerongray> [20:53:54] <guest_37> I'm at my friends house and I brought my PC, I cannot connect to the internet with my antenna
[14:02]<+camerongray> [20:54:07] <baconbuttie> lostcoast: OMG, ho-chi-minh on ya butt
[14:02]<+camerongray> Makes me sick!
[14:03]<@Mulreay> Quantos sold out
[14:03]<+camerongray> what happened?
[14:04]<+camerongray> Mulreay: ^^
[14:09]<+camerongray> What's most annoying is there is nothing I can do about it
[14:09]<+camerongray> They all hate me for pointing out their errors already and Nathan doesn't bother when I contact him
[14:10]<@Mulreay> Why do you keep asking Nathan?
[14:10]<+Craig> Hey guys
[14:11]<@Mulreay> Hey Craig
[14:11]<+camerongray> Hey Craig
[14:11]<+camerongray> Well, he's the owner and I can hardly talk to lostcoast :P
[14:11]<@Mulreay> Just stop going there... simple
[14:11]<@Mulreay> Nathan will NOT help you
[14:11]<+camerongray> Yeah, I keep saying that to myself, but there are a few people I like :P
[14:12]<+Craig> :P
[14:12]<+camerongray> Then there's people like quantos who you can have a good chat with but if you say the wrong thing you get downright abuse
[14:12]<@Mulreay> Craig wanna play a game?
[14:14]<+Craig> What game?
[14:14]<+Craig> :)
[14:15]<@Mulreay> No idea
[14:15]<+Craig> :P
[14:21]<+Craig> How about Sanctum 2?
[14:21]<+Craig> You and cameron both
[14:23]<+camerongray> New server, having too much fun :P
[14:23]<+Craig> lame... :P
[14:24]<@Mulreay> Don't think I have 2
[14:25]<+Craig> Does your laptop work better now? Can you play a graphically intese game?
[14:25]<+camerongray> Also, you know the only game I can remotely use is minecraft :P
[14:25]<+Craig> Why is that?
[14:27]<+camerongray> My reaction times are useless :P
[14:27]<+Craig> ?
[14:28]<+camerongray> If someone shoots me I take ages to work out what's happening :P
[14:28]<+Craig> Its a FPSTD game though, you don't always have to play fps.
[14:28]<+camerongray> And... server
[14:28]<+Craig> Lame... :P
[14:28]<+camerongray> How many do you have? :P
[14:28]<+Craig> 2
[14:29]<+camerongray> oh
[14:29]<+Craig> Physical ones really, unlike your 17 virtual one.s
[14:29]<+camerongray> I have also come to the conclusion that server 2012 is poop
[14:29]<+Craig> And it took you this long?
[14:29]<+camerongray> Yeah, I have 2 physical
[14:29]<+Craig> :P hehe ok
[14:29]<+camerongray> lol, I thought, "it could be good as a home server" easy to use and all that
[14:30]<+camerongray> Go to set up remote access - "Please buy an SSL certificate"
[14:30]<+Craig> Yup...
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[14:30]<+camerongray> Downloading debian ATM, currently just using Windows to run prime95
[14:30]<+Craig> I got my first SSL cert yesterday, 49$/year
[14:31]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[14:31]<+camerongray> Any tips for using Debain as a home server?
[14:31]<+camerongray> Like are there any nice web interfaces other than webmin?
[14:32]<+Craig> CPanel
[14:32]<+camerongray> Oh sweet. Debian 7 is now stable :D
[14:32]<+camerongray> Nah, not using it for web hosting
[14:32]<+camerongray> NAS, print server .etc
[14:32]<+Craig> Then Webmin
[14:33]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:33]<+camerongray> Excited to try debian 7
[14:33]<+camerongray> But that also means that all my other machines are out of date :P
[14:33]<+Craig> :P
[14:33]<+camerongray> I suppose it has enough life left in it
[14:34]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, for RAID 1 should I use the gigabyte RAID or software RAID in Debian
[14:34]<+camerongray> I'm thinking Debian
[14:35]<+Craig> Mulreay, steam, let me knwo.
[14:35]<+Craig> know*
[14:35]<@Mulreay> I declined.. but thanks
[14:35]<+Craig> Why>?
[14:35]<+camerongray> I need to get to Maplin tomorrow, dying to see how much power this server takes!
[14:36]<+camerongray> Going to try to get one of those plug in power meters
[14:37]<+Craig> Oh?
[14:37]<+camerongray> Want to see how much this server will cost to run 24/7
[14:38]<+camerongray> Should be pretty low though - Atom D525, 2x 7200rpm HDD
[14:55]<@Mulreay> Strange having to defend stuff from 2yrs ago
[14:55]<@Mulreay> I guess some people are like that
[14:57]<+camerongray> Mulreay: What's up>
[15:01]<@Mulreay> G'night people
[15:01]<+Craig> ?
[15:01]<+camerongray> cya Mulreay

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[15:30]<+Craig> Hey Jammer
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[16:01]<@Mulreay> Will try later
[16:03]<+camerongray> lol, can't sleep? :P
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[17:16]<@Mulreay> In your face Craig
[17:27]<+camerongray> huh?
[19:00]<+Craig> Huh?
[19:06]<+camerongray> hey Craig
[19:07]<+Craig> Hey Cameron, what are you up to?
[19:07]<+camerongray> Just finished installing Debian on my server
[19:07]<+camerongray> While watching those police camera shows on TV :P
[19:08]<+camerongray> I love the ads at this time of night, never knew you could talk so long about a steamer!
[19:09]<+Craig> :P hahahahah
[19:09]<+Craig> yeah its kinda retarded...
[19:10]<+camerongray> I'm also watching a stream of the TV channel on my HTPC because I can't be bothered going to the next room to turn the satellite box on!
[19:10]<+Craig> :P hahahah
[19:10]<+Craig> They are convenient.
[19:10]<+camerongray> Although I've worked out that when I move into my flat, I'll still be registered for "Sky Go"
[19:10]<+camerongray> So I can still get lots of the channels!
[19:10]<+Craig> What is that?
[19:11]<+camerongray> A streaming service provided by our satellite provider
[19:11]<+camerongray> Also has on demand video
[19:11]<+camerongray> But I'm registered for it so even when I move out I'll still have the account!
[19:12]<+camerongray> Wow! This server is hyperthreaded! - 4 threads!
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[19:47]<+Craig> :P
[19:49]<jamer> Dude my internet has been on the fritz
[19:57]<+Craig> Oh?
[19:59]<jamer> Its like spiking and then almost quitting
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[20:04]<jamer> Hey tux2
[20:04]<jamer> Craig might be the cme idk
[20:04]<+Tux2> Hey jamer
[20:04]<+Craig> the cme?
[20:04]<jamer> Coronal mass ejection
[20:04]<+Craig> Ahh,
[20:06]<+Craig> Interesting
[20:06]<jamer> Pretty sure my desktop is screwed up from it
[20:06]<+Craig> I don't think it would directly effect your computer.
[20:07]<jamer> Magnetic storm basically
[20:07]<jamer> A cme is a solar flare times 1000
[20:07]<+Craig> Yes I understand what they are...
[20:07]<jamer> Everything is affected btw
[20:08]<+Craig> Yes, but unless they are hitting the power stations, your computer is not big enough to be directly affected.
[20:08]<jamer> Eh true ..... might just be a part tgat failed theb XD
[20:08]<+Craig> The magnetic intensity and the distance to the earth and a bunch of other things calculated together would possibly show up as interrtuptions, but not directly affecting your computer.
[20:09]<+Craig> That there, thats just your fingers not working...
[20:09]<+Craig> Hey Tux2
[20:09]<jamer> Im on my phone
[20:11]<+Craig> :P
[20:11]<+Craig> What do you mean on the phone?
[20:11]<+Craig> As in busy, or typing on your phone?
[20:12]<jamer> Typing on my phone
[20:12]<+Craig> Ahh :p
[20:12]<+Tux2> Hey Craig
[20:12]<+Craig> I didn't mean what I said as an insult, just so you know :)
[20:12]<+Craig> What are you up to Tux?
[20:13]<+Tux2> Oh, just doing some work for my minecraft hosting
[20:13]<+Craig> Ahh :p
[20:13]<+Tux2> Datashack is doing network maintenance on May 29th, wed. at 6PM CST
[20:13]<+Craig> Ahhh
[20:14]<jamer> Eh I cant complain about the desktop.... I built it with 67 dollars
[20:14]<+Craig> :P
[20:14]<+Tux2> It's going to kill everyone on the multicraft hosting plan for about 20 minutes while they do it.
[20:14]<+Tux2> And it's at a peak time too...
[20:14]<+Craig> Well since I graduated, I have had many jobs that allow me to build fantastic computers. :P
[20:14]<+Craig> Bahahahah why didn't you ask them for a different time?
[20:15]<+camerongray> Tux2: Need help!
[20:15]<+Tux2> lol Craig, it's all of Datashack!
[20:15]<+Tux2> what's up camerongray?
[20:15]<+Craig> :P
[20:15]<+camerongray> What's the linux command that monitors a file, like that refreshes the contents of it
[20:15]<+Craig> Hey cam
[20:15]<+camerongray> hey
[20:15]<+Craig> Hmm, I don't know that one, what is it Tux?
[20:15]<+Tux2> camerongray: isn't it a modified tail command?
[20:15]<+camerongray> Ahh, watch :P
[20:16]<+camerongray> Just foud it
[20:16]<+Tux2> lol, ah, so you wanted watch
[20:16]<+Craig> BAHAHAHAHHAHA you couldn't think of that one?
[20:16]<+camerongray> I used it earlier, completely forgot
[20:16]<jamer> Craig the gpu im surprised it still runs
[20:16]<+camerongray> Was sure it was "monitor"
[20:16]<+Tux2> rofl
[20:16]<+Tux2> watch 1 tail -n 20 server.log
[20:17]<+camerongray> Yeah
[20:17]<+camerongray> New server is building it's RAID array
[20:18]<+Tux2> ah...
[20:18]<+camerongray> 15.1%
[20:18]<+camerongray> Now, it would make sense to leave it on overnight but something scares me :P
[20:26]<+Craig> I am trying to expand my RAID6, I've done it three times now, and I still can't get it to see all 8TB
[20:26]<+Craig> Any suggestions Tux or Cameron?
[20:36]<+camerongray> Nope, I'm still trying to get RAID 1 working!
[20:36]<+camerongray> hahaha, the email from mdam says "Faithfully yours"
[20:40]<+Craig> Why don't you do a raid 5 or something?
[20:40]<+Craig> Why are you mirroring it?
[20:41]<+Craig> Sorry, wait, is that striping?
[20:41]<+Craig> I always mix them up. :P
[20:41]<+camerongray> Mirroring :P
[20:41]<+Craig> :P
[20:41]<+camerongray> Can't do RAID 5 with 2 drives :P
[20:42]<+Craig> Fair enough
[20:42]<+camerongray> Works really well!
[20:42]<+Craig> That seems like a lot of wasted space., :P
[20:42]<+Craig> Those are just 80GB drives no?
[20:42]<+camerongray> Oh no, my main server is RAID 1 + 0
[20:42]<+camerongray> This is my new home one, pair of 1tb drives
[20:44]<+Craig> Ahh
[20:45]<+camerongray> Need to get to bed :P - Getting light outside
[20:45]<+Craig> Well, the funny thing is, that I can expand my raid, and I suffer no performance loss on Minecraft :p
[20:45]<+Craig> Night Cam
[20:45]<+camerongray> I'll try leaving it overnight to rebuild it's RAID array
[20:45]<+Craig> :P
[20:45]<+camerongray> Of course I had to leave it in the middle of the room :P
[20:46]<+Craig> Bahahahahah
[20:46]<+Craig> Nice choice :P
[20:47]<+camerongray> NOw to find a spot to plug it in!
[20:47]<+Craig> :P
[20:49]<jamer> I hate dells
[20:49]<+Craig> :P
[20:49]<+Craig> How much did you pay for the dell?
[20:50]<jamer> Im getting paid to work on it
[20:52]<jamer> Correction its a sony vaio desktop
[20:53]<+Craig> Thats a LOT different than a dell...
[20:53]<jamer> Dell has the xps line and sony has the vaio line
[20:54]<jamer> Dont stab me
[20:54]<jamer> Looks like a virus
[21:02]<+Craig> Thats normal for most customer computers :P
[21:03]<jamer> And ill need the xp home disk ...
[22:24]<+Craig> Why not use Flash drives they install faster
[22:39]<gat_man> jamer xp pro sps is superior
[22:39]<gat_man> sp2*
[22:42]<+Craig> Its a customer computer, he cannot do that
[22:43]<gat_man> dang , ok well suffer little children
[22:44]<@BC_Programming> aside from NTFS compression I can't think of anything Pro really adds that many people would use
[23:14]<gat_man> is more tuneable infinitly more stable
[23:15]<gat_man> my machines fail before pro does
[23:17]<gat_man> cant think of any time except for one mother of an attack , that xp has failed , except for hardware failure
[23:18]<gat_man> xp pro*
[23:21]<+Craig> Ummm, I don't think you know much about Windows...
[23:22]<gat_man> correct
[23:23]<gat_man> vista and above are rubbish , craig
[23:23]<+Craig> Me thinks you know very little about windows indeed...
[23:23]<+Craig> I will however concede that, Windows Vista sucks.
[23:24]<gat_man> i don't wanna know about "you follow the path we set" OS makes moronic interface usaers
[23:24]<+Craig> Are you a linux person, or an OSX person?
[23:25]<gat_man> xp pro sp2 user
[23:25]<gat_man> why ?
[23:25]<+Craig> Then you have no foot to stand on,
[23:25]<+Craig> If you are using windows, then you are using an operating system that you have a set path on.
[23:26]<gat_man> cause i helped a lot of win users with win drivers and controllers
[23:26]<+Craig> I am not sure how that comes into play.
[23:26]<+Craig> Hey BC_Programming my Bitsync is using 4GB of ram on my server, and its still usable! Woot, one for linux. :P
[23:27]<+Craig> On windows if BitSync gets over 1.2GB it starts getting very unstable.
[23:27]<@BC_Programming> even on Pro? ;)
[23:27]<+Craig> :P hahahahahaha
[23:27]<+Craig> Well, it is Pro, but not XP. :P
[23:28]<gat_man> ok i had free access to a driver site , i helped win users with drivers , how in the name of is any system other than win gonna help there
[23:29]<@BC_Programming> ... what?
[23:29] * +Craig thinks that if you are not experienced with windows enough to actually know the power difference between Home and Pro, or the important differences between XP and 7, then you should *NOT* be helping anyone solve problems with their drivers.
[23:29]<gat_man> x[ pro sp2 , it is indeed there
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[23:30]<+Craig> What on earth are you talking about?
[23:30]<guitar_man> sit on it craig
[23:30]<+Craig> Sit on what?
[23:30]<guitar_man> /nick gat
[23:30]<guitar_man> _man
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[23:31]<+Craig> Your answers are less, and less valuable.
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[23:32]<+Craig> Hey BC you know about Firefly?
[23:32]<gat_man> any other uiser here agree with what Craig says?
[23:32]<@BC_Programming> the show? I heard about it
[23:32]<gat_man> users*
[23:32]<@BC_Programming> gat_man: well he's actually coherent, I don't know wtf you are even saying
[23:32]<+Craig> HAHAHA, thanks BC for the vote of confidence,
[23:33]<@BC_Programming> "free access to a driver site"<< wtf is this supposed to mean. I have an MSDN subscription but that's not a certification- though MSDN also isn't well known for deceiving users into using "driver finder" software of specious purpose and usage
[23:33]<gat_man> ah ok fair call BC_Programming
[23:33]<+Craig> That and between BC and I, there are 20 years of serious computer experience
[23:34]<+Tux2> lol, I know who he is
[23:34]<gat_man> well thing about being around computers since they were room sized is you only have the mechanical basics , not the click and go interface
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[23:34]<@BC_Programming> you aren't making any sense
[23:34]<+Tux2> Let's not start a war...
[23:34]<gat_man> yo tux , long timer no see
[23:35]<+Tux2> Hey
[23:35]<+Craig> We didn't say that we were around since 1975, I said that between BC and I is 20 years of experience
[23:35]<gat_man> regards to ya Ma etc
[23:35]<+Tux2> first off, OS is usually a matter of preference and personal work style.
[23:35]<@BC_Programming> Craig: that's irrelevant though I think
[23:35]<+Craig> :P
[23:35]<@BC_Programming> I mean 'experience' sometimes translates directly into obstinance
[23:36]<@BC_Programming> as in "golly they keep changing these darn computers, clearly the way they used to be was better because I was familiar with it"
[23:36]<+Tux2> XP was great, only thing I saw pro adding though was better file permissions and active directory integration.
[23:36]<@BC_Programming> eg. back when XP was released I thought it was dumb and thought Win98 was "better", but that was based entirely on the fact that I was already familiar with 98
[23:36]<gat_man> yeah BC_Programming fixing what is wrong requires persistance
[23:36]<+Craig> Pro also allows access to Domains and such
[23:37]<@BC_Programming> I didn't say anything about persistence
[23:37]<gat_man> I did
[23:38]<+Craig> So Tux, who is this gat_man anyway?
[23:38]<+Tux2> lol, well, hey, you get what you get on your computer. As computers get newer, there are less and less computers that even have driver support for windows xp, so that will become a moot point, no matter how stable it was.
[23:38]<+Tux2> Craig: guitarman, wazza
[23:38]<@BC_Programming> One of the reasons Pro is seen as "more stable" than Home is that Pro was never pre-installed on user machines, so you hardly ever see a XP Pro install with "crapware"
[23:38]<+Tux2> DriverAgent
[23:38]<+Craig> .... That doesnt mean anything to me?
[23:39]<+Tux2> We met because I needed hard to find drivers for a machine, and he knew how to get them
[23:39]<gat_man> is true tux , I got 4 mobo's tucked away so what IU am 60 now should see me out of this life
[23:40]<gat_man> I am*
[23:42]<+Tux2> lol, that works... I bet I could find an apple IIe computer that still works too...
[23:42]<+Tux2> If it does what you need it to do, and you're happy with the performance, that's what matters, no matter what OS, old or new, that it is.
[23:43]<gat_man> tis true Tux
[23:43]<+Craig> That however, I can agree with Tux2
[23:47]<@BC_Programming> It's a lot easier to misunderstand current technology in an effort to dismiss it than it is to understand it and objectively consider it's benefits, because the former butresses one's confidence. Somebody who has only used Windows will always dismiss Linux; people who mostly use Linux will dismiss Windows, advocates of particular versions usually hardly use other versions, etc. It comes down
[23:47]<@BC_Programming> to cognitive bias- recognizing that, "Hey, Linux is really awesome" (for example) is almost admitting that You've been wasting a lot of time dealing with windows.
[23:48]<@BC_Programming> I know because I felt the same way about Visual Basic 6 for the longest time- "I don't need other languages"; and even though they were objectively better I defended VB6, until the day I actually started to learn it and realized I had wasted 5 years of my life with a crappy programming language
[23:48]<@BC_Programming> 'learn it' meaning other, more powerful languages (C#/Java/Python and such)
[23:50]<+Tux2> One of the great things to learn is to recognize the flaws in your own software/OS
[23:51]<@BC_Programming> quite
[23:51]<@BC_Programming> for example
[23:51]<+Tux2> Weighing the pros/cons for each
[23:51]<+Craig> Best Quote "I would do this for free!" "Well then, can I have your share?" "No" "If you die can I have your share?" "Yes"
[23:51]<@BC_Programming> Craig: lol
[23:51]<+Tux2> lol
[23:52] * +Tux2 gets ready for a huge BC_Programming sized monologue
[23:52]<@BC_Programming> *nix is far more scriptable, because a lot of it rests on CLI interfaces. But that also has disadvantages in that the UIs can often inconsistent or missing options. But it lends itself to things like servers because you don't usually want a UI on those
[23:52]<+Craig> ?
[23:52]<+Craig> BAHAHAHAH
[23:52]<gat_man> te he he he
[23:52]<gat_man> Haw Haw Haw!
[23:53]<+Tux2> Good point BC_Programming
[23:53]<@BC_Programming> And Windows is usually more consistent in terms of UI presentation, but it far more difficult to automate because it's not backed by a CLI that you can script
[23:54]<gat_man> grrr automate , = moronify in my head
[23:54]<@BC_Programming> yes, using linux moronifies people. Sure
[23:54]<+Craig> :P
[23:55]<+Tux2> The Mac OS is great as far as graphic design and presentation because of the way it looks and acts. It presents stuff that could be complex in an easy to use fashion, what it does do, it does do well, what it doesn't do, well, it just doesn't do at all...
[23:55]<gat_man> what is wrong with active interfacing? why has everything gotta be click and go?
[23:56]<@BC_Programming> what is wrong with click and go, why does everything gotta be active interfacing?
[23:56]<@BC_Programming> and just what is "active interfacing" anyway...
[23:56]<gat_man> yeah tux , that is why I like what I use , it may not be the best , but, it does do 96% of what I ask it to do
[23:57]<@BC_Programming> OS Classic was better than OSX as far as UI concerns. OSX is like some unholy combination of OS Classic with NextSTEP
[23:58]<+Tux2> lol
[23:58]<+Tux2> For me, I always use a new OS for about a week to get to know how it acts and all it's quirks so I can easily evaluate it.
[23:59]<+Tux2> Windows 8 was an exception...
[23:59]<gat_man> heh!
[23:59]<@BC_Programming> System 9 wasn't that great though